tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post5811067498199783547..comments2024-03-08T08:05:41.370-05:00Comments on Beis Hamikdash Topics: Tour of the Temple: Class 15Yoav Elanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03859719994853628817noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-45725985805222875172023-08-16T08:57:15.169-04:002023-08-16T08:57:15.169-04:00The tauim had both windows and torches for light. ...The tauim had both windows and torches for light. As for a raya, look no further than Tiferes Yisrael to Middos 4:3 §24. I believe that the beis horadas hamayim was beneath the azarah floor level so as to allow the southern tauim to have windows without being flooded.Yoav Elanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03859719994853628817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-16351646351137953702023-08-16T08:42:50.575-04:002023-08-16T08:42:50.575-04:00Hi. Please tell me if the Taim were ilumintated wi...Hi. Please tell me if the Taim were ilumintated with torches or were there windows there. I am guessing that there were no windows to the Southern Taim give that the water drainage channel was there. I havent seen any Raya for windows to the Taim. ThanksYosef Ber Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02938055091365623212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-14777746092522131052022-08-31T04:07:24.767-04:002022-08-31T04:07:24.767-04:00THANKS SO MUCH!!!! I have looked in Sefaria - Tami...THANKS SO MUCH!!!! I have looked in Sefaria - Tamid and Bartenura meforeish.. I never knew!!!! Baruch Hashem!!!!! Yosef Ber Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02938055091365623212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-34247972923998944552022-08-30T14:32:25.456-04:002022-08-30T14:32:25.456-04:00Sure, check out Tiferes Yisrael Diagram #18, and ...Sure, check out Tiferes Yisrael Diagram #18, and to Tamid 1:3 #43, and Josephus Wars V 5:2.Yoav Elanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03859719994853628817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-48369015911764060462022-08-30T11:40:04.867-04:002022-08-30T11:40:04.867-04:00OMAIN! Thank you. Do you know where there is a ray...OMAIN! Thank you. Do you know where there is a raya for the azara having columns / pillars around before the walls? I have looked into Antiquities it doesnt mention columns unless I am missing it. I do see columns mentioned for Har HaBayis, specifically for the Stoa Portico south of Hordus's extension but not for the Azara or Ezras Noshim. I can imagine that the Ezras Noshim could have had Columns to support the Womens Balconies. I looked into Melachim 1 and I cant see anywhere where it states columns to around the Heichal building itself. Many models both 3D and physical show columns all around the azara. Any ideas? Thanks :)Yosef Ber Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02938055091365623212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-57779191629501674532022-08-25T13:28:40.722-04:002022-08-25T13:28:40.722-04:00Wow, a scale model has been a goal of mine as well...Wow, a scale model has been a goal of mine as well. Much hatzlachah!Yoav Elanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03859719994853628817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-22121031853269470412022-08-25T11:54:58.483-04:002022-08-25T11:54:58.483-04:00OMAIN! Thank you so much! Like you, it is my passi...OMAIN! Thank you so much! Like you, it is my passion. I have been learning Middos for years now. I am building a scale model of Bayis Sheini with push buttons and lights for the Lishgazim, gates, Mizbeach and Heichal and your site has helped me so much! I thank you so very much for your vast knowledge Bli ain hora. Yishar Koyach..I will look at the raya you gave me! Stay tuned for more questions as I have more :)<br />Have a Good Shabbos and a Good Chodesh on Motzei Shabbos.<br />Regards <br />Yosef Ber MYosef Ber Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02938055091365623212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-78004602993563201732022-08-25T10:21:07.965-04:002022-08-25T10:21:07.965-04:00First, mazal tov on your blog! You should be zoche...First, <i>mazal tov</i> on your blog! You should be <i>zocheh</i> to spread much knowledge about the <i>Beis Hamikdash</i> to all corners of the internet. <br />About the roof, you are right that in <i>Middos</i> it does not say anything about it. Take a look at <i>Tiferes Yisrael</i> to <i>Middos</i> 4:6 in <i>Boaz</i> §4 where he writes about the sloping roof. It is based on <i>Rashi</i> in <i>Moed Kattan</i>.Yoav Elanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03859719994853628817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-85539147231350389132022-08-25T02:01:32.320-04:002022-08-25T02:01:32.320-04:00Hi. I have created my Blog now. A new question tha...Hi. I have created my Blog now. A new question that came to my mind. There are diagrams of the Heichal in various seforim that show the roof and the Ulam tapering to a point from all corners. I dont understand how or where they come to this given how Mishna Middos clearly states the dimensions starting from the 6 ama Otem all the way to the orev spikes at the top being 1 Ama (with R. Yehuda saying it was not included). Either way, it clearly states, Upper Flooring 1 ama, Fence 3 Amas and Crow Chaser 1 Ama! No where does it state additional roofing, triangular or straight! Could it be that Those who say that the the roof tapers upwards in all areas including the Ulam in a triangular way is indeed the 1 Ama Flooring before the fence? If so that would not make any sense!Yosef Ber Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02938055091365623212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-90891930548916430042022-08-01T14:33:57.149-04:002022-08-01T14:33:57.149-04:00I will ask my Son who is the computer whizz :) Tha...I will ask my Son who is the computer whizz :) Thanks . Yosef Ber MAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-6972882980791757632022-08-01T09:06:34.433-04:002022-08-01T09:06:34.433-04:00I'm not sure what it is asking you, so it migh...I'm not sure what it is asking you, so it might be a good idea to have someone look at it with you when you sign in. Hatzlachah!Yoav Elanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03859719994853628817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-27181182496203564002022-08-01T02:13:12.568-04:002022-08-01T02:13:12.568-04:00Very interesting! I again will look into that. Tha...Very interesting! I again will look into that. Thanks a lot. Please tell me also so as I can use my real name, when I use my google account option it asks me to create a blog name. Is that all safe to use and only for this site?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-17477333289481810152022-08-01T02:11:45.099-04:002022-08-01T02:11:45.099-04:00Shekoyach! I appreciate that. I will look into tha...Shekoyach! I appreciate that. I will look into that sefer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-55862436929686966902022-07-31T17:27:15.550-04:002022-07-31T17:27:15.550-04:00As for the windows in the Kodesh Hakodashim, Tifer...As for the windows in the <i>Kodesh Hakodashim, Tiferes Yisrael</i> to <i>Middos</i> 4:3 (end of §24) does mention that there were windows there.Yoav Elanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03859719994853628817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-79082900271937456652022-07-31T17:22:30.773-04:002022-07-31T17:22:30.773-04:00Thanks for your question. In the sefer Ezras Kohan...Thanks for your question. In the sefer <i>Ezras Kohanim</i> to <i>Middos</i> 4:5 he quotes <i>Shiltei Giborim</i> that the access holes were, as you point out, covered when not in use.Yoav Elanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03859719994853628817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-40744301796194640762022-07-31T11:06:51.978-04:002022-07-31T11:06:51.978-04:00Hi. Do we know if the access holes around the 20 a...Hi. Do we know if the access holes around the 20 amah Kodesh part of the upper story were covered? I ask given that as we know there were no windows to the back part of the Heichal from above the Taim about 20 amos high to the 40 amos height of the 1st Floor. The Kodesh Kedoshim was dark. If there were no covers to the various access holes, then the windows to the top floor at the back 20 amos would surely have had light penetrate through the 2 ama thick openings thereby causing alot of light to enter the Kodesh Kedoshim. Or were these holes covered? The mishna says in Middos that they were open. Perhaps it is reffering to "open to" and not neceseraly open all the time. ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-53781845431661542532014-08-24T23:26:50.890-04:002014-08-24T23:26:50.890-04:00Well, truth be told, I had never really given this...Well, truth be told, I had never really given this much thought until you mentioned it, so thank you for the comment. I did look up the Ezras Kohanim to Middos 4:7 and he does, indeed, seem to conclude that the Beis Hachalifos only rose as tall as the tauim. This is also the opinion of R' Zalman Koren in his book The Beit Hamikdash (p.62-63) and he goes on to show how this can be derived from the language of Josephus as well. In my model I strive to follow the view of Tiferes Yisrael and so I went back and tried to find places where he might state, or at least hint to, his opinion on this matter. Consider what he writes in note 54 to his Temple diagram, "The outer wall of the Ulam measured 100 amos from north to south and it was as tall as the Heichal [100 amos]." The most obvious way to understand what he is saying here is that the wall was 100x100. Then in note 59 he says that "the Beis Hachalifos were within the space [חלל] of the Ulam at its northern and southern ends." He does not see them as separate structures standing to the north and south of the Ulam but simply areas within the interior of the Ulam. If Tiferes Yisrael actually held that the roof over the Beis Hachalifos was lower than 100 amos I firmly believe he would have made a point of stating this more explicitly, so I am still inclined to maintain that the eastern wall of the Ulam was a square measuring 100x100 amos.Yoav Elanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03859719994853628817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-520998016026184160.post-68340100713116227122014-08-21T13:17:11.559-04:002014-08-21T13:17:11.559-04:00It seems that you did not follow the assumption of...It seems that you did not follow the assumption of the Ezras Kohanim that they 'beis hachalifos' was only as tall as the 'ta'im' and not 100 Amos tall as the UlamU. Weinsteinnoreply@blogger.com